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Old 10-12-2008, 02:12 PM   #1
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A question for my brothers in the southern juristictions, If I were to travel to some of the "whites only" masonic lodges in the south for a visit and showed that I was a mason in good standing raised in a regular "main stream" lodge and who happens to be black, would they deny me the right to sit in a meeting? the question also goes for the other houses York and Scottish Rites of which im a member of also. Would they deny me my rights and priveledges?

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Old 10-12-2008, 04:27 PM   #2
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I am sorry brother but the mainstream lodges would. That is not to so that thier are not southeern lodges that would welocome you.
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Old 10-12-2008, 04:42 PM   #3
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thanks brother edmonds, but im in a regular mainstream lodges blue, york and scottish, im going to test this.
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Old 10-12-2008, 04:55 PM   #4
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A question for my brothers in the southern juristictions, If I were to travel to some of the "whites only" masonic lodges in the south for a visit and showed that I was a mason in good standing raised in a regular "main stream" lodge and who happens to be black, would they deny me the right to sit in a meeting? the question also goes for the other houses York and Scottish Rites of which im a member of also. Would they deny me my rights and priveledges?

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I think that depends on the lodge. It's a shame to say that some of the mainstream lodges in the south are still living in the dark ages. Personally, if you hail from a lodge that is recognized by my Grand Lodge, you are more than welcome to sit with me in lodge.

Even if you weren't from a recognized lodge I would still treat you as a brother. We are all brothers in the eyes of God. However if you weren't from a recognized lodge I couldn't have Masonic discourse with you. That's not to say that I wouldn't offer you a hand if you were in distress or give you a meal or some help to get to your next destination.
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thanks brother edmonds, but im in a regular mainstream lodges blue, york and scottish, im going to test this.
Hi Eric,

I'm curious (and ONLY curious...), are you going to test it to establish a sociological baseline, or to see how far you can push things?

For me, I can't believe your skin color is still an issue. It blows my mind that an organization such as the Masons; an enlightened organization nonetheless, still struggles with the race issue. I, myself, never got it; why a man's skin color was ever an issue. It is not logical.

Good luck in your pursuit Brother Eric. You have my support, although it's just moral support. Good luck in your quest!

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For me, I can't believe your skin color is still an issue. It blows my mind that an organization such as the Masons; an enlightened organization nonetheless, still struggles with the race issue. I, myself, never got it; why a man's skin color was ever an issue. It is not logical.

I think the real problem is not the Craft but the one who can not find there way to the light. They travel with one eye closed and upon a half darkened path chosing to see what they wish. If you just open your eyes and walk in the light you'll find the brothers you never knew you had.
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Old 10-12-2008, 05:09 PM   #7
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thanks brother edmonds, but im in a regular mainstream lodges blue, york and scottish, im going to test this.

As I said before thelodges in the south that travel freely exist but then you have to ask yourself some hard questions regarding regularity.
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A mixture of both Brother, It saddens me that if im traveling in my southern juristiction i cannot visit new brothers thats why i became a mason for fellowship and brotherly love, there can no longer be a double standerd this goes for my prince hall brothers also dont deny me enterance because im in a so called mainstream lodge. if a lodge is chartered and open for fellowship then travelers from all walks of life should be allowed to enter.
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A mixture of both Brother, It saddens me that if im traveling in my southern juristiction i cannot visit new brothers thats why i became a mason for fellowship and brotherly love, there can no longer be a double standerd this goes for my prince hall brothers also dont deny me enterance because im in a so called mainstream lodge. if a lodge is chartered and open for fellowship then travelers from all walks of life should be allowed to enter.

No question about it I agree with you 100%. That being said the lodges that would welcome you exist here in AL. but they are not under the jusidiction of the GL of AL.
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So they are not considered regular?
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